Hi Suavek, the article that got under my skin was by the man who was refuting or debunking, as he saw it, no-virus ideas...Dr Yeadon commented briefly within one of the links you displayed...sorry I forget the name.
I totally disagree with the point of view of your post. It panders to people who fear giving up their superstitious beliefs even though such beliefs have been falsified in every properly conducted scientific expeiment over the past hundred plus years. Read Dr. Mark Bailey's treatise that reviews the research in this field called "A Farewell to Virology" downloadable for free at Dr Sam Bailey's website. Follow them on Substack.
Did you read my post? Its very short. Nowhere in it do I deny the no-virus or the virus view, indeed, its not really about virology at all.
Its about how the money powers use hegelian dialectics to use people to reach a goal of their (the money powers) choosing.
In this case, the goal is Digital Biology. The money powers don't care how its arrived at, virus or no-virus. They want control of all biology, digitally.
Your short comment implies it is neurotic and pointless to call attention to an important fact: viruses have been proven to be a false idea. Take somebody else for a ride--not me.
Its the virus-no-virus debate that is taking people for a ride, distracting them with any number of complex arguments that may or may not be of great importance about which consensus won't be built for probably years, while technocracy is implemented.
Its a very important debate, yes, but if technocracy is implemented there will be no more debates about anything.
Technocracy may be fine with you but not for the rest of humanity.
“The human body is no longer just a biological entity – it’s becoming a networked platform, where cells, neurons, and even DNA can be interfaced with digital systems, raising profound questions about who controls the essence of our existence.”
Something that caught my attention was when the Attorney General Pam Bondi, called the fentanyl crisis in America “Weapons of Mass Destruction.”
Why this is important to me is because, there’s no question America has been and continues to be overrun with fentanyl and the cartels who push these destructive drugs, there’s no doubt America has a problem.
What concerns me and should concern every American is, the mRNA-Bioweapon, which is (NOT A VACCINE) killed more than 31 million people worldwide and the latest VAERS report shows upwards of 670,00 deaths, in America alone!
Fentanyl has killed upwards of 100K people sadly, in America! Why is the attorney general calling this “Weapons of Mass Destruction” while no one, including our President or HHS Secretary, are calling the “covid-fraud” the same? Why?
If ever American’s have been attacked with a “Weapon of Mass Destruction” is was for the fake covid-fraud! This was absolutely an attack against humanity worldwide and against America, by means of an mRNA-Bioweapon!
Which is why I am convinced no such virus exists! Nor have they ever existed! This is and this has been proven repeatedly an effective method of “scaring” the daylights out of people to line up and roll up! Yes America was attacked! Not by a virus, I don’t believe they exist, rather by a “Human Virus” called, the “greed-virus, which was deliberately perpetrated against humanity by these diabolically greedy, psychopathically-deranged, narcissistically-evil, maniacally-maddened, driven evil globalist bankers! End of story!
I'm sorry if I won't be able to respond to your comments quickly enough this time. Due to a power outage, my laptop is currently running on a limited-capacity lithium battery. Recharging can't be done immediately. I apologize in advance for this.
I greatly appreciate Mike's and your work in this article. While I can acknowledge the substantial contributions of Katherine Watt and Sasha Latypova, their contorted analysis and dismissal of the virus vs no virus debate serves the function of obfuscating the critical realization needed to overthrow the tyranny of the contagion lie once and for all.
Sorry, are you living in a country that has switched to solar panels (green energy) and then decided to protect its panels from the sun using Chemtrails?
The EU abandons clean nuclear energy for unreliable solar panels and wind, and use coal (worst pollutant) to make up for the periods where the "green" cannot work. I believe the EU commission is run by headless chickens.
People believe you get sick from someone else going ach-oo because many doctors told them so. I don't believe it because many doctors told me so. Plus, long ago I stopped worrying about ah-choo and began to follow the simple rule of air, exercise and actual food. No more sickee. Really, I should wait for evidence one way or another, but that evidence will be provided by doctors and my experience with doctors has been generally unfortunate.
I should add that a physiotherapist did wonders for me in my youth...but her attention, dedication and sheer physical effort would be unlikely to fit the modern "medical" model of glance and prescribe.
One thing that is rarely discussed is the power of our own thoughts when it comes to getting ill. My grandmother lived until she was 102. We were close and I only remember her being sick a couple of times in my life (I lost her when I was in my mid 50's). What I do remember is how when some kind of "cold" or "flu" or whatever was going around she would say, "I'm not having any part of that!" or, "I'm too busy to be sick!" I have the same attitude as she did and I rarely ever get a sniffle. Yes, I do want to be away from people if they are hacking and coughing but not because I'm afraid I'll "catch" something, but because I don't want that "mindset of illness". We will all eventually get weak and die. It's going to happen, but I don't believe we need to live a life where we are constantly afraid we are going to "catch" something just because our neighbors, friends, or other family members got sick. I know this "attitude of health" is not a cure-all and there are certainly certain diseases that people get that all the "positive thinking" in the world couldn't have prevented. But, then, I have to wonder... what kind of lifestyle were many of these people leading? Were they drinking a 12 pack of beer every night and/or a pint of Jack Daniels? Were they sleeping properly? Were they on prescription drugs? Were they popping Tylenol and other OTC products like crazy? Were they eating a diet loaded with sugar and other foods that are not very good for them? Our health is complex for sure. But, I still believe that managing stress properly and having an attitude of, "oh hell no... I refuse to catch the latest "illness du jour" goes a long way to keeping ourselves healthy. Healthy mind. Healthy body? Who knows. Sorry for the rant. Appreciated your comment and it got me thinking of all of this. :)
What we want (willingness) is our currently active purpose.
To be aware of thought all the time is impossible and unnecessary, but conflicted purpose frames a sick mind in an attempt to have both truth AND self-illusion -and by masking co-fusion, set illusions of truth at war with itself.
What we give, sets the measure of our receiving, but what we be-live or accept as a masking protection from deeper (inner) conflict frames a self+world in false solutions, that buy time (delay) against healing (release of conflicted identity).
The form it takes is secondary to our active or accepted purpose. Hence there can be no universal rules for living - but that love is already uncoercive and unconflicted being - of giving and receiving as one. And so CAN NOT be done, achieved, added, or formulated by masking substitutions.
Our attention reflects what we are valuing (by giving) -but while we suffer the meanings we give -as if at the hand of an other, we focus in opposition or reaction AS IF a self-autonomy denied or deprived, but intention is not a thing apart but alignment within an (infinite/edgeless) awareness.
Focusing on what we don't want - as if to gain or boost what we SAY we want, runs a cover story for fear of uncovering true desire of unfolding fulfilment.
Living our fulfilment as aligned purpose is not a 'lack-driven getting'.
Investing in idols of health against fear (of sickness) masks over conflicts we are as yet unready or unwilling to own, address or release.
Note that the releasing of what no longer serves can be experienced as a conflicted world, rather than as delaying or avoiding decision to accept aligned purpose (True Self Acceptance).
While we believe conflict, limitation and sickness can get us something we want, need or hold meaningful, we will protect it even while 'trying' to overcome, heal or get rid of it.
There are limits to our tolerance for pain - however ingeniously masked, denied or projected away from a 'control' complex. That there is always another way to see any situation is a basis for willingness to be wrong about it - when we recognise we do not want the fruits or results of a way we had learned to 'see' under fear's dictate.
I find it fascinating how quick folks are to place their trust in--& bet their lives on--an invisible thing never proven to exist while denying the invisible God's holy wrath against sin and the amply proven historical fact of the singular God-man's birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection to atone for it.
It's worst in the US than you think. There are States in the US that ban abortions, but cannot ban mRNA concoctions that have been proven in South Korean studies on millions of people to have also killed millions around the globe.
By different data-intensive multi-nation analytical methods, Denis Rancourt & Ed Dowd have each triangulated on the figure of at least 20M excess deaths b/c of the shot. As of last year... and counting. Which is a lot.
One of the signs of God's judgment on a nation or culture is to take away reason. 2nd Thessalonians 2 and Romans 1 paint the same picture: If folks show they prefer deadly lies to Christ, God gives them up to adamantly believe those lies on a grand scale.
You cant assign all cause to the shot - but to the effects of all 'countermeasures'. See Denis Rancourt's recent articles.
The idea of God's judgement underlies a god of vengeance in place of giving (yielding up) vengeance.
However the wages of sin (lies given power to make attack on truth) is (spiritual) death. It 'lives' by lies substituting for truth - but only by the power (worth-ship) given them. There is no substitute for love.
Fear of love must 'love' to hate. That is the basis by which attack can be framed 'holy' and true Sanctity of being replaced by war.
But I get your point - we are making choices.
But I wont project my 'frame of choices' to limit or define God in my own image.
The OT world/mind is very different from the New Testament - yet the covenant of love has yet to be given acceptance by those choosing a mind of self specialness in its stead.
All are called, but few choose to listen... as yet.
Re. countermeasure knock-on effects: agree. But the distinction is a bit like saying that the starvation and disease resulting from a war ought not to be counted quite as hard against the perpetrators of said war as the deaths from bombs & bullets.
Re. love & wrath & whatnot: they can’t be separated any more than the trinity can be—which doesn’t stop some from trying that too. Christ’s love for His own is salvation from His (God’s) righteous wrath. “In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us [His church-bride] and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” (1st John 4:10)
OT & NT are one perfectly seamless, interrelated testimony to the glory of the unchanging triune God. If He had not loved Adam & Eve, in Christ, according to their faith in the Gen 3:15 promise, they would have been vaporized on day one. If He had not loved the elect, national Israel would have been eradicated the moment they complained in the desert. (See Rom 2:28, 9:6 & Heb 3, e.g.)
Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8, and, well, the entirety of the New Testament affirm God’s immutable character, not only His righteous wrath—Matt 23-24, e.g.—but also His New Covenant love for all who trusted and trust Christ in all ages and places. E.g., Gen 15:6—explained in Rom 4 & Gal 3—unfurls the amazing continuity of the Scriptures and the only refuge from God’s wrath: Christ.
“…[Jesus] said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures… the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.”
If viruses don't exist at all... How can all the biolabs around the world have repeatable "successful research experiments"? Logically all experiments should have random results if they don't exist, No??? And similarily, don't the biolabs have successful "contagion" experiments???
No. There is no properly conducted experiment that's ever demonstrated the contagion hypothesis. Read Dr. Mark Bailey's treatise that reviews the research in this field called "A Farewell to Virology" downloadable for free at Dr Sam Bailey's website. Follow them on Substack.
But the framing and funding of research must learn to align in the power that supports it.
Official narratives (accepted true in law) are largely internalised as if established and thus unquestionable facts.
The concept of viruses runs as a protected species within the management of conflict masking as medical science. As the word is used specifically for the framing of destructive countermeasures I would not use it for anything but the false narrative of a genetic cell-hacking code entity given any and all magical powers to subvert, attack and undermine the living.
If you noticed - covid was a psychic contagion set by a drilled and lockstepped Media under military dictates running corporate fronts. Such an unprecedented coercion set dictates and commands in code that could run as a mask of plausible deniability. Yet it was not really hidden!
Learn how to see the Emperor's robes or meet vilification and exclusion, by threat of fear of pain of loss.
Injecting shit into creatures is the means to show 'contagion' in labs.
Dont neglect the unprecedented disparity of wealth - or money leverage as the terrain in of which thescience operates (along with all other institutions/corporations).
Note that operation covid effected an unprecedented transfer of wealth, in a process that is ongoing as the ratcheting of a systemic control of its managed mindshare.
I don't care for binary conflicts as if truth must attack the false with impunity.
So prefer 'What Virus?' - in the context of weaponised lies - as an invitation to live the question rather than feed an identity. The false claims of function need be disregarded for truth to reveal - else attacking lies becomes substitute for loving or appreciating truth. War on lies - may as well be war on viruses - or any other mind-hack.
All the labs do have repeatable experiments in which they kill monkey kidney cells via starvation and poisoning. But that does not prove that “viruses” are killing the cells, and it doesn’t prove that “viruses” exist. As for contagion experiments, I’ve unaware of any that succeeded. If you have one that you have read and that convinced you, please share it.
I'm not trying to get into the weeds...I've read the arguments of exozomes vs endozomes... But simply, logically, wtf are all these scientists doing in the labs, and how do they make "repeatable progress" if nothing is in the test tubes?
I do know that a couple of "human challenge" studies have been done.. last one recently with covid admistered by swab in the nose with non-random results.
I do consider the "virus" could be like a black hole and can't be seen given today's technology.... and similarily maybe they are only man made?
No apology needed for getting into the weeds. They didn’t have modern technology when TMV was hypothesized to be caused by “contagium vivum fluidum” but that didn’t stop scientists from embarking on the journey of virology, which was the study of a hypothetical thing. To this day, modern technology and techniques is still looking for the thing, still trying to prove the hypothesis that “viruses” are things that cause & spread disease. But there are very serious flaws and logical problems with the methodologies such as declaring that “because we don’t know the cause, then it must be virus!” When we can clearly see that “virus” has not been properly demonstrated to exist, it’s fair and logical to demand proof of this “virus” as the first order of business before advancing the conversation to areas like “its” genome, size, shape, capabilities, etc. Any studies that rely on PCR to “prove” the presence of a “virus” are logically flawed because PCR detect what it is programmed to detect, but what it is programmed to detect has never been proven to be “the virus” or elements of it. Without finding the “virus” first it is impossible to accept that the PCR is detecting the thing that was never found, isolated, and demonstrated to have the capabilities hypothesized. I don’t even have to look at the challenge studies to guess they used PCR to “prove” they detected some amplified sequences of unknown provenance or capability.
just trying to put the pieces together... virus don't exist because there is no photo just like there is no photo of a black hole. So do black holes exist? I'm aware of the Lanka, et al argument. But I can't except that the workers in the viral bio-war labs are just a Simpsons episode/series.
Here's another question... wtf are all the varients? Assuming the PCR test is not over-cycling (<25?) and these varient fragments are in some people and not others and the test specificity shows spread and is reproducable around the world.
You are confused my friend. There are indeed “photos” of so called “viruses.” There is no absence of images. Thrrr are also images of lockness monster, Bigfoot, witches, martians, wizards, and other fictional ideas never proven scientifically to exist.
Is the study you linked telying on PCR to claim detection of the submicroscopic mini devil? Perhaps you can summarize it for me. I’m willing to be convinced. I’m not unwilling to read the study myself, but if you are offering it as some evidence supporting a belief, please explain what about that study you find convincing. Keep in mind the cdc would really love it if you could help them by sending it to them so they can answer Christine Massey’s multiple requests for evidence of contagion. That aside, I’m open to hearing directly from you what about that study is convincing you of something.
In the abstract, which I just read, it is asserted that participants were inoculated with a virus. We’re is the evidence of the virus they say they’re working with? You see, it’s just another lsyer oupon the house of cards of virology. The virus must be shown to exist in the first place before claims made in the abstract can be taken seriously. “Witches have killed thousands of people around the world, so we cast witches’ spells upon our study subjects and the findings are interesting.” You can see how stupid and ridiculous any statement in any study would be, and no one would take it seriously because witches have not been scientifically proven to be the cause of anything. Do you think fictional viruses are any different from fictional witches? My friend let’s get out of the weeds and back to the basics: where is the evidence for viruses?
Inevitably, the vaccine believers ask, who would want to kill us using fake vaccines against a fake virus. So you tell them it has been going on for a long, long time, and you explain the old “cow pox” vaccines, the rise of sanitation, the “spanish flu” of WWI, etc. , and the Pasteur corruption, because they sort of heard of that stuff, (if they are old like me). But they can’t believe that this has been going on for so long. So they reject the notion. They think you are crazy. And the conversation is over. Dr Yeadon wrote at the start of the most recent fake pandemic, he wrote that you should just try believing for a day, that there is an evil group that is trying to kill us all. Accept that idea for just a day, and see that many of the other things that you see that were previously inexplicable are now explainable, by the actions of this evil death-wish group. For me, the lifetime of inexplicable now made sense, and the real reality was unveiled. Just my experience. People still think I am crazy, but not everybody.
To take a position on whether viruses exist doesn't give one the license to make-up a definition. The determination of their existence must be based on the medical dictionary's definiton. Based on that current definition, they cannot be found and the probability of their non existence is astronomically high..
Fascinating post that had me continually remembering what the original definition of "virus" was: "Poisonous Substance". If we were living in a world where science hadn't been completely corrupted and turned on it's head, we would be experiencing incredibly complex and enlightening conversations between scientists that would be blowing the lid off of many things we have become used to accepting as "the science". In my lifetime (but not recently) I remember many supposedly scientific theories, etc that have been reversed, and tweaked over the years as more studies were done. We are in a sad age now where there can only be one narrative. In the name of ego and narcissism, people we should be able to trust refuse to even entertain the possibility that something they believe is true could maybe be false, or maybe could be some where "in between". This staunch "your either on my side or you are the enemy" attitude has trickled down into the public and we can thank the media, politicians, and (in many cases) doctors for the horrible division it has caused. We must be willing to look at all sides of issues (and I know that's difficult at times) and also be willing to change our minds sometimes. Or, at a minimum, be willing to agree to disagree. I hope that I will get to see in my lifetime, a return to rational discussions of things like "viruses" and many other things that really do need to be studied. Excellent post. :)
1) First, the children presumably live in similar environments, eat similar food, and have similar mindsets. Humans are monkey-see-monkey-do. Women will sync up their menstrual cycles, and no microbe is blamed for that. Humans mimic each other for many reasons and in many ways.
2) We do not have ‘immune systems’. Immunology is just another bad idea from 19th century Europe where people did not know about Traditional Chinese Medicine, which explains all of it without microbes or Immunology.
Likewise, thank you for all you do. I would love to connect for a live conversation sometime if possible, that could be interesting and fun. I wish you well ☯️🌞❤️
Listening to both sides of this fascinating and, hopefully, transformative debate, I notice myself doing the "but what about..." mental dance.
Is there a reasonably complete, competent, generalized theory of disease that can account for all those attributed to viruses?
I always come back to a very narrow virus case: herpes simplex 2 - one to one direct sexual transmission with clear outcome and symptoms. With no virus - what is the causative agent?
According to my cursory research, which I've temporarily interrupted due to lack of time, so-called "venereal diseases" were named after the part of the body where they occurred. In other words, because they occurred in the genital area, they were called "venereal diseases." Later, the term was renamed "sexually transmitted diseases." Strangely, these diseases weren't even recognized in ancient times, not even by the doctors of the time, even though they were well aware of the reality. The fact of the lack of reports from ancient times is in itself a kind of proof. People weren't any dumber back then than they are today. The intelligence quotient has supposedly not improved since that time. In Pompeii, depending on the source, there were only 8,000 to a maximum of 20,000 residents, but approximately 40 brothels. Throughout the ancient world, sex wasn't associated with fears of disease transmission, but was practiced very freely. Among the many surviving accounts from thousands of years of antiquity, there are no reports of such "transmissible" diseases. At that time, concerns were only directed at young men who frequently visited brothels without being able to establish a stable relationship. This concern was about the possible future corruption of a young person's character, not the fear of disease.
Therefore, something had to be invented in modern times, and thus the myth arose that these diseases had been brought from the newly discovered America along with Columbus. Several well-known figures of the 18th and 19th centuries were subsequently "certified" as having died from "sexually transmitted diseases". Only in recent years has Friedrich Nietzsche been certified as having died from a "sexually transmitted disease," although he died of Alzheimer's. However, since some skeletons from the 13th century also show traces of such diseases, the "America" myth turns out to be a fabrication.
And now we should take a closer look at how these diseases are classified. The mysterious PCR tests have been used for diagnosis for some time. Many of these diseases are described as asymptomatic, and some of these diseases are said to affect only men, and others only women.This means that in a heterosexual relationship, only one partner can be affected, while the other remains healthy. And where, pray tell, is the alleged "transmission" here?
When the entire fabric of lies collapses, only a few cases remain of diseases whose symptoms are visible in the genital area. Further research may require practicing physicians, but history alone provides some good starting points. Incidentally, in the 17th century, venereal diseases were associated with smallpox, whose symptoms can be visible all over the body.
In my opinion, the fraud doesn't concern these diseases themselves, since symptoms can certainly occur in the genital area, but rather their transmission and the frequency of their occurrence, which is linked to misclassification by PCR and other tests. To better understand this fraud, I suggest examining the HIV/AIDS fraud, which is already better documented and has some parallels to the fraud involving alleged "sexually transmitted" diseases. A key difference is that with the AIDS plandemic, not as much of the old story had to be rewritten. ( https://suavek1.substack.com/p/false-tests-were-also-used-for-hiv )
I can't go into detail here, but the fraud surrounding the alleged transmission of symptoms in the genital area is partly connected to the fraud surrounding the alleged "smallpox pandemic" among Native Americans. This served to cover up the mass murder of Native Americans caused by physical exhaustion during forced labour. They died because they weren't conditioned for the hardest work in gold and silver mining. Dynamite, which could make this work easier, had not yet been invented at that time. The Catholic Church, several royal families, and the newly emerging financial elite/ the bankers of the time, profited from this. All had an interest in concealing the origins of their wealth. The mentally and physically exhausted Native Americans died of different illnesses. If the work norms in a silver mine were not met, both hands of the forced labourer could be cut off as punishment. This greed on the part of the European rulers created a certain need for explanation, and thus the myth of a communicable smallpox disease emerged long before this idea could be exploited by the pharmaceutical industry. In reality, there was no transmitted disease, but rather a cover-up of a mass murder.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to finish the article on this topic yet. I'm not in a position to uncover everything on my own anyway, but I can provide clues as to which direction research might be worthwhile. What I have discovered, however, I can describe credibly and substantiate very well. Ultimately, this Substack was created for this purpose.
At the very least, those purporting adherence to the scientific method might endeavour to address the rebuttal and methodological falsification of the existence and consequences of an alleged "contagious," "obligate intracellular parasite," perhaps to make an attempt to review a few exemplars of the salient historical literature.
What seems stunning is that a vast majority of well educated clinicians and scientists appear to cherish, relish and savour their "established" beliefs, almost at the level of dependence and addiction. They simply refuse to consider that what is claimed as "established" amounts to methodological fraud.
This appears to suggest that relentless multigenerational conditioning is a very, very effective weapon.
Many thanks for the fullsome reply Suavek - in the UK they've even softened the phrase to sexualy transmitted infection.
For me it's much less nebulous; my 1st wife cheated on me, we split, then she informed me she had herpes - too late for a new partner of mine, who told me she now had contracted herpes (from me) and had obvious genital lesions, I tested positive (whatever that means). Subsequently, I advised a new partner that I had herpes - she was OK with that and subsequently contracted herpes, with obvious genital lesions.
So when I said direct sexual transmission with clear outcomes and obvious symptoms, I was speaking from direct personal experience. It seems clear to me that there was some direct causative agent, from my ex wife to me and from there to 2 other women; something of a literal cluster f*ck.
I'm having difficulty getting my head around anything other than a transmissable infectious agent.
Hi Rider,
Which article are you referring to? Who is the author of the article?
Best wishes,
Suavek
Hi Suavek, the article that got under my skin was by the man who was refuting or debunking, as he saw it, no-virus ideas...Dr Yeadon commented briefly within one of the links you displayed...sorry I forget the name.
Happy Monday it's holiday here.
Suavek do me a favor and delete my long winded comment thanks if you can
Rider,
Of course I fulfilled your wish, but ....I don't see any article commented on by Dr. Yeadon, just a video with Dr. Tom Cowan...
The above comment was deleted at the request of the commentator.
Behold the Virus-No-Virus Car
like to go for a ride?
https://tomg2021.substack.com/p/behold-the-virus-no-virus-car
I totally disagree with the point of view of your post. It panders to people who fear giving up their superstitious beliefs even though such beliefs have been falsified in every properly conducted scientific expeiment over the past hundred plus years. Read Dr. Mark Bailey's treatise that reviews the research in this field called "A Farewell to Virology" downloadable for free at Dr Sam Bailey's website. Follow them on Substack.
Did you read my post? Its very short. Nowhere in it do I deny the no-virus or the virus view, indeed, its not really about virology at all.
Its about how the money powers use hegelian dialectics to use people to reach a goal of their (the money powers) choosing.
In this case, the goal is Digital Biology. The money powers don't care how its arrived at, virus or no-virus. They want control of all biology, digitally.
So should we avoid telling the truth because the hegelian dialectic is always in play?
We should be aware that we are being driven to Digital Biology and why. So its bad to be aware of that?
Your short comment implies it is neurotic and pointless to call attention to an important fact: viruses have been proven to be a false idea. Take somebody else for a ride--not me.
Its the virus-no-virus debate that is taking people for a ride, distracting them with any number of complex arguments that may or may not be of great importance about which consensus won't be built for probably years, while technocracy is implemented.
Its a very important debate, yes, but if technocracy is implemented there will be no more debates about anything.
Technocracy may be fine with you but not for the rest of humanity.
Steaming pile...
“The human body is no longer just a biological entity – it’s becoming a networked platform, where cells, neurons, and even DNA can be interfaced with digital systems, raising profound questions about who controls the essence of our existence.”
Node without Consent
https://brownstone.org/articles/node-without-consent/
Something that caught my attention was when the Attorney General Pam Bondi, called the fentanyl crisis in America “Weapons of Mass Destruction.”
Why this is important to me is because, there’s no question America has been and continues to be overrun with fentanyl and the cartels who push these destructive drugs, there’s no doubt America has a problem.
What concerns me and should concern every American is, the mRNA-Bioweapon, which is (NOT A VACCINE) killed more than 31 million people worldwide and the latest VAERS report shows upwards of 670,00 deaths, in America alone!
Fentanyl has killed upwards of 100K people sadly, in America! Why is the attorney general calling this “Weapons of Mass Destruction” while no one, including our President or HHS Secretary, are calling the “covid-fraud” the same? Why?
If ever American’s have been attacked with a “Weapon of Mass Destruction” is was for the fake covid-fraud! This was absolutely an attack against humanity worldwide and against America, by means of an mRNA-Bioweapon!
Which is why I am convinced no such virus exists! Nor have they ever existed! This is and this has been proven repeatedly an effective method of “scaring” the daylights out of people to line up and roll up! Yes America was attacked! Not by a virus, I don’t believe they exist, rather by a “Human Virus” called, the “greed-virus, which was deliberately perpetrated against humanity by these diabolically greedy, psychopathically-deranged, narcissistically-evil, maniacally-maddened, driven evil globalist bankers! End of story!
May God Bless America and The Entire World!
AJR
Virology is a religion until proven otherwise.
I'm sorry if I won't be able to respond to your comments quickly enough this time. Due to a power outage, my laptop is currently running on a limited-capacity lithium battery. Recharging can't be done immediately. I apologize in advance for this.
Suavek
P.S.
I urge you to stay on topic in your comments.
I greatly appreciate Mike's and your work in this article. While I can acknowledge the substantial contributions of Katherine Watt and Sasha Latypova, their contorted analysis and dismissal of the virus vs no virus debate serves the function of obfuscating the critical realization needed to overthrow the tyranny of the contagion lie once and for all.
Sorry, are you living in a country that has switched to solar panels (green energy) and then decided to protect its panels from the sun using Chemtrails?
I live in Germany. I don't see any chemtrails in my area. I also hardly see the sun, but that's because I'm working on this Substack at home.
Best regards,
Suavek
I thought you were in the UK.
Starmer promised to block the SUN in the UK!
The EU abandons clean nuclear energy for unreliable solar panels and wind, and use coal (worst pollutant) to make up for the periods where the "green" cannot work. I believe the EU commission is run by headless chickens.
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People believe you get sick from someone else going ach-oo because many doctors told them so. I don't believe it because many doctors told me so. Plus, long ago I stopped worrying about ah-choo and began to follow the simple rule of air, exercise and actual food. No more sickee. Really, I should wait for evidence one way or another, but that evidence will be provided by doctors and my experience with doctors has been generally unfortunate.
I should add that a physiotherapist did wonders for me in my youth...but her attention, dedication and sheer physical effort would be unlikely to fit the modern "medical" model of glance and prescribe.
One thing that is rarely discussed is the power of our own thoughts when it comes to getting ill. My grandmother lived until she was 102. We were close and I only remember her being sick a couple of times in my life (I lost her when I was in my mid 50's). What I do remember is how when some kind of "cold" or "flu" or whatever was going around she would say, "I'm not having any part of that!" or, "I'm too busy to be sick!" I have the same attitude as she did and I rarely ever get a sniffle. Yes, I do want to be away from people if they are hacking and coughing but not because I'm afraid I'll "catch" something, but because I don't want that "mindset of illness". We will all eventually get weak and die. It's going to happen, but I don't believe we need to live a life where we are constantly afraid we are going to "catch" something just because our neighbors, friends, or other family members got sick. I know this "attitude of health" is not a cure-all and there are certainly certain diseases that people get that all the "positive thinking" in the world couldn't have prevented. But, then, I have to wonder... what kind of lifestyle were many of these people leading? Were they drinking a 12 pack of beer every night and/or a pint of Jack Daniels? Were they sleeping properly? Were they on prescription drugs? Were they popping Tylenol and other OTC products like crazy? Were they eating a diet loaded with sugar and other foods that are not very good for them? Our health is complex for sure. But, I still believe that managing stress properly and having an attitude of, "oh hell no... I refuse to catch the latest "illness du jour" goes a long way to keeping ourselves healthy. Healthy mind. Healthy body? Who knows. Sorry for the rant. Appreciated your comment and it got me thinking of all of this. :)
What we want (willingness) is our currently active purpose.
To be aware of thought all the time is impossible and unnecessary, but conflicted purpose frames a sick mind in an attempt to have both truth AND self-illusion -and by masking co-fusion, set illusions of truth at war with itself.
What we give, sets the measure of our receiving, but what we be-live or accept as a masking protection from deeper (inner) conflict frames a self+world in false solutions, that buy time (delay) against healing (release of conflicted identity).
The form it takes is secondary to our active or accepted purpose. Hence there can be no universal rules for living - but that love is already uncoercive and unconflicted being - of giving and receiving as one. And so CAN NOT be done, achieved, added, or formulated by masking substitutions.
Our attention reflects what we are valuing (by giving) -but while we suffer the meanings we give -as if at the hand of an other, we focus in opposition or reaction AS IF a self-autonomy denied or deprived, but intention is not a thing apart but alignment within an (infinite/edgeless) awareness.
Focusing on what we don't want - as if to gain or boost what we SAY we want, runs a cover story for fear of uncovering true desire of unfolding fulfilment.
Living our fulfilment as aligned purpose is not a 'lack-driven getting'.
Investing in idols of health against fear (of sickness) masks over conflicts we are as yet unready or unwilling to own, address or release.
Note that the releasing of what no longer serves can be experienced as a conflicted world, rather than as delaying or avoiding decision to accept aligned purpose (True Self Acceptance).
While we believe conflict, limitation and sickness can get us something we want, need or hold meaningful, we will protect it even while 'trying' to overcome, heal or get rid of it.
There are limits to our tolerance for pain - however ingeniously masked, denied or projected away from a 'control' complex. That there is always another way to see any situation is a basis for willingness to be wrong about it - when we recognise we do not want the fruits or results of a way we had learned to 'see' under fear's dictate.
Here's a video about traditional Catholic Church teaching about evolution.
This video was originally broadcast on a Public Access TV program in the late 1990s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydCjkclF27k
Evolution
What Catholics Believe - Holy Mass Livestream
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24:40 video runtime
I find it fascinating how quick folks are to place their trust in--& bet their lives on--an invisible thing never proven to exist while denying the invisible God's holy wrath against sin and the amply proven historical fact of the singular God-man's birth, life, death, burial, and resurrection to atone for it.
It's worst in the US than you think. There are States in the US that ban abortions, but cannot ban mRNA concoctions that have been proven in South Korean studies on millions of people to have also killed millions around the globe.
Go figure!
By different data-intensive multi-nation analytical methods, Denis Rancourt & Ed Dowd have each triangulated on the figure of at least 20M excess deaths b/c of the shot. As of last year... and counting. Which is a lot.
One of the signs of God's judgment on a nation or culture is to take away reason. 2nd Thessalonians 2 and Romans 1 paint the same picture: If folks show they prefer deadly lies to Christ, God gives them up to adamantly believe those lies on a grand scale.
You cant assign all cause to the shot - but to the effects of all 'countermeasures'. See Denis Rancourt's recent articles.
The idea of God's judgement underlies a god of vengeance in place of giving (yielding up) vengeance.
However the wages of sin (lies given power to make attack on truth) is (spiritual) death. It 'lives' by lies substituting for truth - but only by the power (worth-ship) given them. There is no substitute for love.
Fear of love must 'love' to hate. That is the basis by which attack can be framed 'holy' and true Sanctity of being replaced by war.
But I get your point - we are making choices.
But I wont project my 'frame of choices' to limit or define God in my own image.
The OT world/mind is very different from the New Testament - yet the covenant of love has yet to be given acceptance by those choosing a mind of self specialness in its stead.
All are called, but few choose to listen... as yet.
Re. countermeasure knock-on effects: agree. But the distinction is a bit like saying that the starvation and disease resulting from a war ought not to be counted quite as hard against the perpetrators of said war as the deaths from bombs & bullets.
Re. love & wrath & whatnot: they can’t be separated any more than the trinity can be—which doesn’t stop some from trying that too. Christ’s love for His own is salvation from His (God’s) righteous wrath. “In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us [His church-bride] and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” (1st John 4:10)
OT & NT are one perfectly seamless, interrelated testimony to the glory of the unchanging triune God. If He had not loved Adam & Eve, in Christ, according to their faith in the Gen 3:15 promise, they would have been vaporized on day one. If He had not loved the elect, national Israel would have been eradicated the moment they complained in the desert. (See Rom 2:28, 9:6 & Heb 3, e.g.)
Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8, and, well, the entirety of the New Testament affirm God’s immutable character, not only His righteous wrath—Matt 23-24, e.g.—but also His New Covenant love for all who trusted and trust Christ in all ages and places. E.g., Gen 15:6—explained in Rom 4 & Gal 3—unfurls the amazing continuity of the Scriptures and the only refuge from God’s wrath: Christ.
“…[Jesus] said to them, “These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled.” Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures… the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.”
(Luke 24:44-45, 2nd Peter 3:10)
If viruses don't exist at all... How can all the biolabs around the world have repeatable "successful research experiments"? Logically all experiments should have random results if they don't exist, No??? And similarily, don't the biolabs have successful "contagion" experiments???
No. There is no properly conducted experiment that's ever demonstrated the contagion hypothesis. Read Dr. Mark Bailey's treatise that reviews the research in this field called "A Farewell to Virology" downloadable for free at Dr Sam Bailey's website. Follow them on Substack.
That would seem a reasonable question.
But the framing and funding of research must learn to align in the power that supports it.
Official narratives (accepted true in law) are largely internalised as if established and thus unquestionable facts.
The concept of viruses runs as a protected species within the management of conflict masking as medical science. As the word is used specifically for the framing of destructive countermeasures I would not use it for anything but the false narrative of a genetic cell-hacking code entity given any and all magical powers to subvert, attack and undermine the living.
If you noticed - covid was a psychic contagion set by a drilled and lockstepped Media under military dictates running corporate fronts. Such an unprecedented coercion set dictates and commands in code that could run as a mask of plausible deniability. Yet it was not really hidden!
Learn how to see the Emperor's robes or meet vilification and exclusion, by threat of fear of pain of loss.
Injecting shit into creatures is the means to show 'contagion' in labs.
Dont neglect the unprecedented disparity of wealth - or money leverage as the terrain in of which thescience operates (along with all other institutions/corporations).
Note that operation covid effected an unprecedented transfer of wealth, in a process that is ongoing as the ratcheting of a systemic control of its managed mindshare.
I don't care for binary conflicts as if truth must attack the false with impunity.
So prefer 'What Virus?' - in the context of weaponised lies - as an invitation to live the question rather than feed an identity. The false claims of function need be disregarded for truth to reveal - else attacking lies becomes substitute for loving or appreciating truth. War on lies - may as well be war on viruses - or any other mind-hack.
All the labs do have repeatable experiments in which they kill monkey kidney cells via starvation and poisoning. But that does not prove that “viruses” are killing the cells, and it doesn’t prove that “viruses” exist. As for contagion experiments, I’ve unaware of any that succeeded. If you have one that you have read and that convinced you, please share it.
I'm not trying to get into the weeds...I've read the arguments of exozomes vs endozomes... But simply, logically, wtf are all these scientists doing in the labs, and how do they make "repeatable progress" if nothing is in the test tubes?
I do know that a couple of "human challenge" studies have been done.. last one recently with covid admistered by swab in the nose with non-random results.
I do consider the "virus" could be like a black hole and can't be seen given today's technology.... and similarily maybe they are only man made?
No apology needed for getting into the weeds. They didn’t have modern technology when TMV was hypothesized to be caused by “contagium vivum fluidum” but that didn’t stop scientists from embarking on the journey of virology, which was the study of a hypothetical thing. To this day, modern technology and techniques is still looking for the thing, still trying to prove the hypothesis that “viruses” are things that cause & spread disease. But there are very serious flaws and logical problems with the methodologies such as declaring that “because we don’t know the cause, then it must be virus!” When we can clearly see that “virus” has not been properly demonstrated to exist, it’s fair and logical to demand proof of this “virus” as the first order of business before advancing the conversation to areas like “its” genome, size, shape, capabilities, etc. Any studies that rely on PCR to “prove” the presence of a “virus” are logically flawed because PCR detect what it is programmed to detect, but what it is programmed to detect has never been proven to be “the virus” or elements of it. Without finding the “virus” first it is impossible to accept that the PCR is detecting the thing that was never found, isolated, and demonstrated to have the capabilities hypothesized. I don’t even have to look at the challenge studies to guess they used PCR to “prove” they detected some amplified sequences of unknown provenance or capability.
just trying to put the pieces together... virus don't exist because there is no photo just like there is no photo of a black hole. So do black holes exist? I'm aware of the Lanka, et al argument. But I can't except that the workers in the viral bio-war labs are just a Simpsons episode/series.
Here's another question... wtf are all the varients? Assuming the PCR test is not over-cycling (<25?) and these varient fragments are in some people and not others and the test specificity shows spread and is reproducable around the world.
btw this is the human covid challenge study where they put snot extract in the nose https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35361992/
You are confused my friend. There are indeed “photos” of so called “viruses.” There is no absence of images. Thrrr are also images of lockness monster, Bigfoot, witches, martians, wizards, and other fictional ideas never proven scientifically to exist.
Is the study you linked telying on PCR to claim detection of the submicroscopic mini devil? Perhaps you can summarize it for me. I’m willing to be convinced. I’m not unwilling to read the study myself, but if you are offering it as some evidence supporting a belief, please explain what about that study you find convincing. Keep in mind the cdc would really love it if you could help them by sending it to them so they can answer Christine Massey’s multiple requests for evidence of contagion. That aside, I’m open to hearing directly from you what about that study is convincing you of something.
In the abstract, which I just read, it is asserted that participants were inoculated with a virus. We’re is the evidence of the virus they say they’re working with? You see, it’s just another lsyer oupon the house of cards of virology. The virus must be shown to exist in the first place before claims made in the abstract can be taken seriously. “Witches have killed thousands of people around the world, so we cast witches’ spells upon our study subjects and the findings are interesting.” You can see how stupid and ridiculous any statement in any study would be, and no one would take it seriously because witches have not been scientifically proven to be the cause of anything. Do you think fictional viruses are any different from fictional witches? My friend let’s get out of the weeds and back to the basics: where is the evidence for viruses?
Inevitably, the vaccine believers ask, who would want to kill us using fake vaccines against a fake virus. So you tell them it has been going on for a long, long time, and you explain the old “cow pox” vaccines, the rise of sanitation, the “spanish flu” of WWI, etc. , and the Pasteur corruption, because they sort of heard of that stuff, (if they are old like me). But they can’t believe that this has been going on for so long. So they reject the notion. They think you are crazy. And the conversation is over. Dr Yeadon wrote at the start of the most recent fake pandemic, he wrote that you should just try believing for a day, that there is an evil group that is trying to kill us all. Accept that idea for just a day, and see that many of the other things that you see that were previously inexplicable are now explainable, by the actions of this evil death-wish group. For me, the lifetime of inexplicable now made sense, and the real reality was unveiled. Just my experience. People still think I am crazy, but not everybody.
I definitely don't think you are crazy.
Thanks
Me too…crazy you are not and trust me….when I say I know crazy .
To take a position on whether viruses exist doesn't give one the license to make-up a definition. The determination of their existence must be based on the medical dictionary's definiton. Based on that current definition, they cannot be found and the probability of their non existence is astronomically high..
Fascinating post that had me continually remembering what the original definition of "virus" was: "Poisonous Substance". If we were living in a world where science hadn't been completely corrupted and turned on it's head, we would be experiencing incredibly complex and enlightening conversations between scientists that would be blowing the lid off of many things we have become used to accepting as "the science". In my lifetime (but not recently) I remember many supposedly scientific theories, etc that have been reversed, and tweaked over the years as more studies were done. We are in a sad age now where there can only be one narrative. In the name of ego and narcissism, people we should be able to trust refuse to even entertain the possibility that something they believe is true could maybe be false, or maybe could be some where "in between". This staunch "your either on my side or you are the enemy" attitude has trickled down into the public and we can thank the media, politicians, and (in many cases) doctors for the horrible division it has caused. We must be willing to look at all sides of issues (and I know that's difficult at times) and also be willing to change our minds sometimes. Or, at a minimum, be willing to agree to disagree. I hope that I will get to see in my lifetime, a return to rational discussions of things like "viruses" and many other things that really do need to be studied. Excellent post. :)
2 questions
1 if one child in a class get chickenpox, its a certainty that many other children in the class will. If not a virus then what?
2 what is the immune system for?
For clarity. I am neutral on this topic. I do lean toward terrain theory but germ theory has a basis too. And both are just theories.
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1) First, the children presumably live in similar environments, eat similar food, and have similar mindsets. Humans are monkey-see-monkey-do. Women will sync up their menstrual cycles, and no microbe is blamed for that. Humans mimic each other for many reasons and in many ways.
2) We do not have ‘immune systems’. Immunology is just another bad idea from 19th century Europe where people did not know about Traditional Chinese Medicine, which explains all of it without microbes or Immunology.
Good questions!
Hello Doc Smith,
Thank you very much for your very insightful and helpful comments.
All the best,
Suavek
Likewise, thank you for all you do. I would love to connect for a live conversation sometime if possible, that could be interesting and fun. I wish you well ☯️🌞❤️
Dear Doc Smith, I've already sent you a direct message via Substack.
Best regards,
Suavek
Listening to both sides of this fascinating and, hopefully, transformative debate, I notice myself doing the "but what about..." mental dance.
Is there a reasonably complete, competent, generalized theory of disease that can account for all those attributed to viruses?
I always come back to a very narrow virus case: herpes simplex 2 - one to one direct sexual transmission with clear outcome and symptoms. With no virus - what is the causative agent?
According to my cursory research, which I've temporarily interrupted due to lack of time, so-called "venereal diseases" were named after the part of the body where they occurred. In other words, because they occurred in the genital area, they were called "venereal diseases." Later, the term was renamed "sexually transmitted diseases." Strangely, these diseases weren't even recognized in ancient times, not even by the doctors of the time, even though they were well aware of the reality. The fact of the lack of reports from ancient times is in itself a kind of proof. People weren't any dumber back then than they are today. The intelligence quotient has supposedly not improved since that time. In Pompeii, depending on the source, there were only 8,000 to a maximum of 20,000 residents, but approximately 40 brothels. Throughout the ancient world, sex wasn't associated with fears of disease transmission, but was practiced very freely. Among the many surviving accounts from thousands of years of antiquity, there are no reports of such "transmissible" diseases. At that time, concerns were only directed at young men who frequently visited brothels without being able to establish a stable relationship. This concern was about the possible future corruption of a young person's character, not the fear of disease.
Therefore, something had to be invented in modern times, and thus the myth arose that these diseases had been brought from the newly discovered America along with Columbus. Several well-known figures of the 18th and 19th centuries were subsequently "certified" as having died from "sexually transmitted diseases". Only in recent years has Friedrich Nietzsche been certified as having died from a "sexually transmitted disease," although he died of Alzheimer's. However, since some skeletons from the 13th century also show traces of such diseases, the "America" myth turns out to be a fabrication.
And now we should take a closer look at how these diseases are classified. The mysterious PCR tests have been used for diagnosis for some time. Many of these diseases are described as asymptomatic, and some of these diseases are said to affect only men, and others only women.This means that in a heterosexual relationship, only one partner can be affected, while the other remains healthy. And where, pray tell, is the alleged "transmission" here?
When the entire fabric of lies collapses, only a few cases remain of diseases whose symptoms are visible in the genital area. Further research may require practicing physicians, but history alone provides some good starting points. Incidentally, in the 17th century, venereal diseases were associated with smallpox, whose symptoms can be visible all over the body.
In my opinion, the fraud doesn't concern these diseases themselves, since symptoms can certainly occur in the genital area, but rather their transmission and the frequency of their occurrence, which is linked to misclassification by PCR and other tests. To better understand this fraud, I suggest examining the HIV/AIDS fraud, which is already better documented and has some parallels to the fraud involving alleged "sexually transmitted" diseases. A key difference is that with the AIDS plandemic, not as much of the old story had to be rewritten. ( https://suavek1.substack.com/p/false-tests-were-also-used-for-hiv )
I can't go into detail here, but the fraud surrounding the alleged transmission of symptoms in the genital area is partly connected to the fraud surrounding the alleged "smallpox pandemic" among Native Americans. This served to cover up the mass murder of Native Americans caused by physical exhaustion during forced labour. They died because they weren't conditioned for the hardest work in gold and silver mining. Dynamite, which could make this work easier, had not yet been invented at that time. The Catholic Church, several royal families, and the newly emerging financial elite/ the bankers of the time, profited from this. All had an interest in concealing the origins of their wealth. The mentally and physically exhausted Native Americans died of different illnesses. If the work norms in a silver mine were not met, both hands of the forced labourer could be cut off as punishment. This greed on the part of the European rulers created a certain need for explanation, and thus the myth of a communicable smallpox disease emerged long before this idea could be exploited by the pharmaceutical industry. In reality, there was no transmitted disease, but rather a cover-up of a mass murder.
Unfortunately, I haven't been able to finish the article on this topic yet. I'm not in a position to uncover everything on my own anyway, but I can provide clues as to which direction research might be worthwhile. What I have discovered, however, I can describe credibly and substantiate very well. Ultimately, this Substack was created for this purpose.
Best wishes,
Suavek
Yes. Traditional Chinese Medicine explains 100% of human symptoms without using a microscope at all, so no germs are blamed.
At the very least, those purporting adherence to the scientific method might endeavour to address the rebuttal and methodological falsification of the existence and consequences of an alleged "contagious," "obligate intracellular parasite," perhaps to make an attempt to review a few exemplars of the salient historical literature.
What seems stunning is that a vast majority of well educated clinicians and scientists appear to cherish, relish and savour their "established" beliefs, almost at the level of dependence and addiction. They simply refuse to consider that what is claimed as "established" amounts to methodological fraud.
This appears to suggest that relentless multigenerational conditioning is a very, very effective weapon.
Many thanks for the fullsome reply Suavek - in the UK they've even softened the phrase to sexualy transmitted infection.
For me it's much less nebulous; my 1st wife cheated on me, we split, then she informed me she had herpes - too late for a new partner of mine, who told me she now had contracted herpes (from me) and had obvious genital lesions, I tested positive (whatever that means). Subsequently, I advised a new partner that I had herpes - she was OK with that and subsequently contracted herpes, with obvious genital lesions.
So when I said direct sexual transmission with clear outcomes and obvious symptoms, I was speaking from direct personal experience. It seems clear to me that there was some direct causative agent, from my ex wife to me and from there to 2 other women; something of a literal cluster f*ck.
I'm having difficulty getting my head around anything other than a transmissable infectious agent.
Blessings and appreciation from Sydney Australia.