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A couple of months ago I watched a YouTube video by Dr. Suneel Dhand where he suggested doctors pay should be CUT by 50%.

This was on the grounds that health outcomes are extremely poor.

He surmised that within weeks they would all 'discover' that poor diet, poor exercise, and of course excessive use of pharmaceuticals were all problems that needed to be tackled.

I think Dr. Dhand's proposal has a lot of merits. Rewarding failure is not acceptable.

https://youtu.be/1zTynaDQ1kc?si=v-0uSOpHobCbeg4o

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Suavek's avatar

I can understand your point of view. On the one hand, you raise the question of justice, but on the other hand, I see a contradiction with pragmatic thinking. The questionable complicity of many doctors in the deadly medical fraud of recent years was carefully planned by the perpetrators. This included burdening doctors' practices with enormous bureaucratic tasks. This was a hidden salary cut through the back door. I suspect that this decision was taken in many countries in order to force doctors to corrupt more easily on a psychological level, so that they can more easily carry out any order. So, I think, cutting doctors' salaries can prove to be a double-edged sword. The rhetorical question I can throw in is: will a salary cut encourage doctors to act more justly, or will it encourage them to commit even more corruption?

Thank you for your valuable food for thought!

Best wishes,

Suavek

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

This is all based on the false premise that the people (taxpayers) have some means of monetary control over doctors' salaries one way or the other; the reality is that the medical system is totally corrupt and that includes the willful complicity of many doctors for whom acting more justly was never a matter of conscience; these same doctors KNEW about the importance of a healthy lifestyle and the dangers of using unproven gene therapies disguised as "vaccines".

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Corona Studies's avatar

Socialising healthcare is the reason why everybody is sick, obese, chronically ill, dying from injected poisons etc.

Even if the healthcare system is not socialised, per se, the government (sponsored by, and acting on behalf of, Big Pharma) still dictates medical education and training and regulates drugs and other therapies.

I've invented a special spray to repel unicorns. Every weekend I go to my nearest park and stand on a soap box warning of the threat posed by unicorns and offering my repellant spray as a necessary prevention strategy (it's only 29.99 a can). I have yet to sell a single batch due to lack of interest. Everyone just tells me I am crazy.

The vax industry would be in exactly the same position as me if it were not for government propping it up in the ways I just explained.

Viruses and unicorns are exactly as real as each other (both are familiar concepts, neither exist in nature), and my repellent spray is exactly as useful as any vaccine (completely pointless). The only reason I am not as rich as Bill Gates is that I don't have any government backing - such as training an army of sales reps (AKA 'doctors') to sell my fraudulent potion for me.

In a free market we'd all be drug free and healthy, apart from a few naive idiots who always fall for ridiculous scams.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

Such a good analogy. A friend uses “a shield against space aliens and their mischievous pixie dust” as the equivalent to vaccines.

You either get it or you don’t 😊

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CD's avatar

Dhand also encouraged people to get jabbed, so there's that, too.

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Katherine's avatar

Did he?! Yikes. I had no idea.

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CD's avatar

Yeeup.

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Tony Porcaro's avatar

These statements are consistent with what Dr David Martin has been saying for many years: "They knew they were going to murder people and didn't care!" His latest interview is extremely revealing and "pulls no punches"..."Striking a Death Blow to the Global Cartel's War on Humanity"; Martin gives convincing evidence to reveal that the Covid fraud was about population control using the same eugenics policies that were used in the past in combination with the latest technocratic means to cull all those they consider "useless eaters"; as Vera Sharav has maintained all along, the holocaust never ended, only we now have the descendants of the original evil perpetrators acting to achieve the same criminal goals on a global basis.

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Kaylene Emery's avatar

Lovely post .

🙏🙏🙏

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currer's avatar

Thank you Mike. You are right and I have come to the same conclusion. In fact since the second world war every budding hope of real progress and justice has been snuffed out by these degenerates. It explains why the world has not improved in my lifetime.

Ignore the social climbing shits. They will eventually have to come to terms with their cowardice.

The moral law still applies and there are severe penalties for those who fall short. God is not mocked.

God bless you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbK0z1-L_O8&t=2333s

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Kaylene Emery's avatar

Amen!

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CD's avatar

👏👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿

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currer's avatar

The conspirators plan to use the shock and anger of the population against our complicit institutions and the NHS doctors who kept quiet and injected their innocent victims.

They plan that we destroy our institutions and country ourselves once they set the "Great Reveal" in motion. There are already signs that they are starting to leak the truth about the injections.

Any professional who has kept quiet needs to speak out now.

We must not allow our anger to be manipulated as a weapon against our best interests. Watson needs to be more astute.

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Suavek's avatar

Although I think you are certainly right, I found nothing in Nigel Watson's words that contradicts a smart and pragmatic tactic. The tactic of the perpetrators really looks like we have all been forced into a double bind situation. In my understanding, this does not mean that the truth should be concealed. But you have made me very curious. What would you like to change in Watson's speech?

PS.

The toxicity in the design of the pseudo-vaccine obviously also serves the purpose of creating anger that will then help replace our institutions with a stakeholding system.

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currer's avatar

Simply that the doctors were forced into a double bind. I have GPs in my family and they injected themselves and their daughters. Doctors are as propagandisable as anyone else.

At the beginning of the panic their own patients would have reported them if they had refused to vaccinate.

We should not box those who have done wrong into a corner, they need to be offered an honourable way out once they realise what has been done to them. They are weak, but not the perpetrators of this crime.

Those who planned this attack on humanity know that most people will not respond heroically in a difficult situation, but temporise. They have used this knowledge of human nature as an intrinsic element in their scheme to fatally compromise our doctors, destroy our trust in our institutions and set the ground for further destruction.

Rather than requiring that doctors should behave in a way that hardly anyone has the courage to do, and sacrifice their careers to speak out, we need to work with them in a way that does not expose their complicity or threaten their status. As I said, most were taken in at the beginning.

The sooner the doctors can speak out the better for them. We need to make this as easy and inclusive as possible.

In fact the top NHS administrators have applied these control management techniques onto the medical staff.

I was in hospital last week and I saw a televised cartoon animation asking pregnant women to take four vaccines - RSV, flu, Whooping cough and covid. -To protect their baby!!!. Who produced such a sophisticated film and played it on the hospital monitors?

This has been long planned, and not by the doctors. Where did this film promoting vaccinating pregnant women with four unnecessary injections come from? Who funded it? I bet it is in all European Health centres, not only the UK.

It is the top political management that has a stranglehold over the NHS, and this is the origin of the corruption and abuse.

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Suavek's avatar

"It was the others." That sounds like "I was just doing my job." I can't hear statements like that anymore. That's how children justify themselves when they have committed harmless little sins. And the deadly "vaccination" continues?

When I told the vaccinating doctors how many ambulances been driving past my house since the introduction of the bioweapon in 2021 and wanted to say something about it, they abruptly ended the phone calls and continued "vaccinating". They were afraid of losing the unique opportunity to make a lot of money. All those who invested a lot of time and effort to warn people lost their savings because they didn't have time to do their jobs. Do you know how arrogant all the vaccinating doctors I tried to talk to were? One of them later died 11 days after his second injection, and the other posts photos on Facebook of his frequent vacation trips from Europe to the USA to show how he and his wife can have boozy parties in hotels there. He poisoned half of the small town he lives in. Do you know the cartoon by Morilo with the wolf in sheep's clothing, with the text: "We have all been tricked"?

It is already 2024, almost 2025. Doctors have now witnessed enough of the difficult fates of their "vaccinated" patients to know the minimum of the truth. "It's the others' fault" can no longer be true in 2024. To allow this saying to apply would mean allowing further mass murder to continue. A psychopath who is allowed to act without having to take responsibility will continue to do whatever serves his interests. Such people will never stop on their own unless they are stopped from outside. Nigel Watson's suggestion is one of the gentlest of all possible. Of all the possible solutions to the problem, Nigel Watson's proposal is the gentlest and most gentle.

But of course, those who still follow such orders today exhibit strong psychopathic traits. The transition from normality to psychopathy is fluid.

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currer's avatar

The task is to find a path out of the trap that has been set, and that will involve taking many people with you whom you might not like and whose behaviour has been less than desirable.

The goal of the perpetrators is for us to hate and destroy each other. This must be avoided.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

I think you make a good point about finding honourable ways out of their bind, though I severely struggle with doctors who’ve known for years that the injections were decidedly harmful, stopped getting them themselves and yet continued injecting the public and their children. Like the general practitioner I know personally.

Those I appealed to COULD have made a dent, that is, retired and late career professionals. That they declined even to risk a little social disapproval has saddened me no end. If they wouldn’t say anything, I don’t think there’s any realistic chance that mid career professionals are going to risk financial ruin, no matter what the provocation is.

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currer's avatar

The important thing is to find a way out that takes these doctors with us. It is no use expecting them to be heroes they have already shown that they are not. They are very afraid of losing social acceptance and status. They must be shown that they will stand a better chance of keeping this if they admit they were manipulated and duped, but were not intentionally harming their patients. This is a numbers game. We need to bring in as many as possible so make it easy for them.

Despite their medical training, doctors are "normies." My GP was astounded at the beginning of the "pandemic" when I told him I was not isolating or wearing a mask. He was cowering at home in fear. They were propagandised as much as everyone else and reacted accordingly. By the time some had doubts it was already too late...these are mafia tactics.

Blaming the doctors is something of a misdirection. All elements in society need to hold together in the face of this disintegrative assault.

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currer's avatar

Remember this attack has been wargamed over a long planning period and they are counting on the population acting like animals and tearing itself and its society apart. This is what they want and hope to see.

Britain is an old civilisation, not one of the third world countries they usually dismember. We traditionally relied on civilised values - endurance, decency and compromise. Yes, those values have weakened but they are not entirely gone, and will defend us against these primitive degenerate predators, who cannot understand or foresee such a response.

It is fatal to box your opponent in - they must be offered an honourable way out. Only so can we unite against the true criminals.

Most people are not heroes. We need to include those of average fallibility.

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Corona Studies's avatar

I was going to write something similar so I'll tag it on here if that's OK.

I don't disagree with anything Watson says in the video clip but I think shaming doctors into speaking out as individuals can only work as part of a much broader strategy. On its own, having doctors 'do the right thing' and speak out will potentially just isolate and marginalise them as 'fringe conspiracy theorists'.

I am more in favour of going after the thing doctors value the most - their prestige, high social status, credibility and scientific legitimacy - and then when the 'healthcare system' (drug industry) is utterly discredited in the eyes of the masses, they will then have an incentive to jump ship, driven by the same thing which motivated them to go to medical school in the first place (the desire for social status and an air of 'professionalism').

I don't believe you can arm twist people into moral behaviour, because if they are arm twisted it's not true virtue. Let's not forget, the 'elites' use strategies that exploit the LOWEST motivations in people (ego, fear, greed, vanity, conformity, free hamburgers etc). That's why their scams work so well.

Our strategies have to be equally effective. Appealing for people to become something they are not (strong, courageous, virtuous, saintly, self sacrificing) is never going to work for the general population .... and like I said, those who can be those things are going to be them anyway.

The good news is that virology is a fake science (even on its own terms) and contagion theory has been disproven by over 200 real world studies over the last century. The entire foundation of the modern 'healthcare system' has already been exposed as pseudoscience designed to prop up the drug industry.

I think it is far more effective to go after the profession / industry itself and expose doctors as glorified drug dealers who have killed (perhaps) 15 million worldwide over the past 4 years, with the prospect of long term chronic disease and mass infertility to look forward to. Rather than beg doctors to do the right thing, I think we should be DARING them to remain ensconced in this sick (literally) and sordid profession and pointing out how courageous it is to remain an active participant in the greatest crime in recent history.

Personally, I am done appealing to people with the standard " this is soooo important and you need to wake up and speak out" line. It has achieved nothing in 5 years. If anything it has just made people dig their heels in and defend the official narrative (and their careers) even more.

AFAIC the (actual) science has already exposed the entire Rockefeller medical paradigm as a fraud - and by extension the profession of 'doctor'. Plumbers, sewage workers, roofers, chimney sweeps, hospital cleaners and porters all do valuable, essential and noble work. Doctors don't even register on the same list. Doctors need to become aware that they are the lowest of the low. Even drug dealers operating from dark alley behind the local pub have more integrity and respect for their customers than needle pushing doctors. They don't lie about the drugs they sell. And generally if there's a particularly bad batch they stop selling it. That already places them leagues above the white coated drug dealers. You average doctor's appointment is probably shorter than your average back alley drug deal.

Having done a deep dive on the science (and found there is none) I now view the whole thing in terms of a moral tale. The doctors signed a deal with the devil and got their double garages and heated swimming pools and fancy white coat and extra bonuses for fulfilling the vax 'schedule'. They got everything they dreamed of. And they questioned none of it.

And now the bargain they made is being revealed for all the world to see. And now even their own wives/ husbands/ children/ parents are succumbing to the poisons which they injected and earned a commission on. Many have already died or suffered injuries. The prospect of mass infertility (not revealed until 20 years from now) is also a very real possibility.

I don't believe we need to really explain the moral of this story. We just need to keep telling the story as it is.

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Suavek's avatar

Not doing harm is not a heroic act, but the absolutely necessary omission of an action. In case of doubt, when you do not know whether you are doing harm or helping, you should simply refrain from the questionable action. Doctors know this very well. I do not believe that this can have anything to do with any heroic act. I see this as an absolute minimum of conscientious behavior. Anyone who doesn't understand this should at most clean the drains and not walk around in a white coat and play the role of an authority figure, because in that case, in my opinion, he is a REAL idiot.

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currer's avatar

I am not disputing this. No-one would disagree with you.

But anger and dissention is exactly what the perpetrators are using to manipulate us with and you will fall into their trap.

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Suavek's avatar

You wrote: "Most people are not heroes". However, I did not attach my answer here to your statement, which I wanted to answer. I repeated my answer above, in the right place.

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Suavek's avatar

I love anger because it has cathartic powers and protects us from going crazy and physically ill. Anger is connected to love, to hurt love, and it cannot really be suppressed. If you express legitimate anger instead of forever holding back your feelings, you will never overreact. You probably mean the danger of reacting according to the motto "an tooth for a tooth" and overreacting. In this sense, I also believe that this is what the perpetrators want. Presumably for this purpose, toxicity was built into the design of the "vaccine". Watson's speech, however, goes in a completely different direction. In his example, I do not see blind anger, but rather a very creative one that shows the direction of problem solving. We may need several different terms for the feeling of anger, but we do not have them.

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Suavek's avatar

Not doing harm is not a heroic act, but the absolutely necessary omission of an action. In case of doubt, when you do not know whether you are doing harm or helping, you should simply refrain from the questionable action. Doctors know this very well. I do not believe that this can have anything to do with any heroic act. I see this as an absolute minimum of conscientious behavior. Anyone who doesn't understand this should at most clean the drains and not walk around in a white coat and play the role of an authority figure, because in that case, in my opinion, he is a REAL idiot.

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currer's avatar

Our doctors have been entrapped into a situation where they were forced to be complicit in harm. By the time they realised what was happening it was already too late. They are tainted and controlled by this complicity.

These are standard Mafia tactics.

We need to provide an amnesty for any doctor who wants to separate themselves from their prior actions.

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Suavek's avatar

There is a big difference between wanting to distance yourself and finally doing so OFFICIALLY. Do you want to have some kind of absolution assurance before you have distanced yourself? You think and speak like a doctor seeking absolution. If that is the case, then take the first step that Watson suggests and officially dissociate yourself from mass murder on the Internet. The clear, OFFICIAL presentation of the facts helps the victims and the educational movement at least a little. If what I have said does not apply to you, I apologize in advance.

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currer's avatar

I am not a doctor.

Bravery cannot be coerced

If doctors do not speak out they will find themselves in a much worse position once the truth is known as the plan is for them, the NHS and our UK institutions to be targeted. It is better that they speak out now, but I think convincing them of the benefits for them of doing this (as they will be safer if they dissociate themselves now) will be more productive.

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currer's avatar

Remember you are dealing with cowards - they have already proved this - or they would have spoken out before this.

You need to give them an option cowardly people can accept.

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Dr Mike Yeadon's avatar

This is a very good discussion below the article. Thank you, everyone. It’s far from simple, what to do. There’s merit in all the arguments set out.

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