The arguments for “NO VIRUS” - PART 11 : Manu El Ohim said... Foreword by Dr. Mike Yeadon.
A conversation in Germany.
Foreword
by Dr. Mike Yeadon
Dr. Mike Yeadon, October 14, 2024 :
https://t.me/DrMikeYeadonsolochannel/1951
This assembly by Suavek contains new information for me, so perhaps for you also?
The exchanges with the press are interesting.
Some good summary points on the lack of scientific evidence for the existence of viruses are concisely laid out here. I don’t believe any major points are missing if you take the texts together.
Lack of evidence supporting contagion.
The absence of misuse of controls in the in vitro studies.
The absurd methods used to build a claimed genome from fragments, using a prior, fraudulently assembled genome as a template.
It’s a very effective scam. It’s particularly effective when people don’t even think to question any let alone all of the fundamental pillars of “knowledge” upon which the entire facade rests. Like me, for example. I didn’t work in virology or in vaccines, so it never occurred to me to read into the field or to question any of the assumptions until 2020 et seq.
Best wishes
Mike
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Dr. Mike Yeadon, April 20, 2024 :
https://drmikeyeadon.substack.com/p/statement-by-mike-yeadon/comment/54375556
I no longer accept the model of acute respiratory illnesses being caused by submicroscopic, infectious particles, commonly known as viruses. If this model was correct, it would be straightforward to show transmission or contagion. There is a medical literature of more than a century duration, in which people with these acute respiratory illnesses (“donors”) were placed in close proximity to healthy people (“recipients”) for several hours. Controls were the situation where healthy people replaced those who were ill. In no case did the recipients fall ill at a higher rate when exposed to ill donors than to healthy donors. This destroys the commonplace narrative about these illnesses: how they are caused and transmitted. It’s lies.
I also came across a literature review of the effectiveness of influenza vaccines, and was disturbed to realise that they don’t work. This isn’t to cherry pick the data. None of the purported vaccines worked. Obviously, the manufacturers know this, as do the regulators, the governments and some seniors in the medical profession. This proves that none of these stakeholders are averse to lying to the public or care about the health of their patients. This is consistent both with the notion that these acute respiratory illnesses are not caused by “viruses” and that all manner of authorities are willing to lie to the public and patients. I argue this renders creating intentional toxicity and lying about it.
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Manu El Ohim said...
by Suavek
A few months ago I sent a proposal to the German journalist group APOLUT to get to know the statements of Dr. Mike Yeadon. This was followed by a somewhat longer email conversation between a member of this group and me. My main goal was to convince the important journalists of the alternative, German media that there was never a "pandemic" and that "Covid" was an invented disease. There was of course interest in Dr Yeadon's statements, so I sent APOLUT all the links to his statements. My Substack, which is mainly based on these statements, has made this task particularly easy for me, as it was also designed for such purposes.
Fortunately, the idea seems to work. This was followed by interesting interviews, including with Dr Stefan Lanka, and articles whose authors understood and believed in the non-existence of "Covid". It was essential to me to continue to share Dr Yeadon's first-class information. But it turned out that the APOLUT journalist group, weakened by censorship, was also able to benefit from the new information thanks to the new perspectives on the political-medical fraud and found a number of new subscribers, including among medically interested readers and experts. Accordingly, the comments under APOLUT articles have become somewhat more professional. The topic “No Virus” was also able to arouse interest here. Examples of this can also be found here, in this article.
Here you can read selected statements about the non-existence of "viruses" that can be found in the comments section under a German-language interview with the biologist Prof. Dr. Ulrike Kaemmerer. The interview does not specifically address "No virus". And yet... The comments seem to shed light on the existing problem particularly well, especially those from Manu El Ohim. Internet research revealed that there is a health expert and naturopath in Australia called Emmanuel Manu Elohim. I assume they are probably the same person.
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German source :
http://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer/#comment-287171
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The statements translated here from German into English can be found in the original under the interview linked above. Here is the translation :
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287196
If there are no viruses that cause illness, we don't need to talk about vaccinations and tests for them.
Questioning the basis simply brings more.
Ms. Kämmerer wanted to provide proof of the existence of the virus and would have even received 1.5 million euros for it. Unfortunately, she noticed that this just doesn't work, because all publications on pathogenic viruses lack the logical control experiments required by the DFG, which is why none of this publication can be described as scientific.
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287118
Unfortunately, Ms. Kämmerer has not yet been able to detect ANY virus in reality, not even for the 1.5 million euros that Samuel and Jens offered for it over 4 years.
How about overcoming your indoctrination through training and studying, and your pride and admitting that you only believe in “viruses” but have NEVER isolated one in reality?
is that too much to ask?
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_Box said :
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287171
Certainly with M-Pathie (whatever this term has to do with it given the practice), where else:
1) A less benevolent explanation for why this question is currently taken so seriously can be found in the video by Bodo Schiffmann, which was published on May 16, 2022 on the channel of lawyer Beate Bahner. His main message is that Dr. Stefan Lanka deliberately made an impossible demand for the detection of viruses, namely to provide a virus isolate. This requirement, on which his entire construct is based, is unfulfillable because a virus cannot replicate outside another cell and decays. Dr. Schiffmann states that Dr. Lanka, as a representative of the virus deniers, has done great harm to the RNA 'vaccine' critics by attempting to discredit and ridicule them.
While I benevolently interpreted the virus existence dispute as a linguistic misunderstanding, Dr. Schiffmann the behavior of Dr. Lanka in terms of content as a deliberately applied eristic trick. His behavior contributes to the radical restructuring of society and the transfer of national decision-making powers to supranational organizations (WHO). This restructuring can be pushed forward more quickly and effectively through the 'Corona measures', which he supports indirectly through his unfulfillable demands. The same applies to a population reduction intended by the Gates Foundation, which has been preparing a global vaccination campaign for 10 years, which is to be achieved, among other things, by sterilizing large parts of the population. For sources on Gates and his projects, he refers to his own Telegram channel.
Out of:
Are there viruses or not?
https://corona-blog.net/2022/05/18/gabe-es-nun-virusen-oder-nicht/
[ Editor's note : I think the criticism of Dr. Stefan Lanka is completely exaggerated. However, with the "no virus" issue, it is similar to the court: everything you say can later be used against you. ]
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287194
7 key points to refute the claim that the virus exists ❗️
1️⃣ Virologists interpret the death of cells in the laboratory as being virally caused. Due to a lack of control experiments, they overlook the fact that they are killing the cells in the laboratory themselves and unintentionally, through starvation and poisoning. This misinterpretation is based on a single publication by John Franklin Enders and a colleague dated June 1, 1954. The highest court decided in the measles virus trial that this publication did not contain any evidence of a virus. This publication became the exclusive basis not only of measles virology, but of all virology since 1954 and the corona hysteria.
2️⃣ Virologists mentally/computationally assemble the shortest pieces of so-called genetic information from dying cells into a very long strand of genetic material, which they pass off as the genetic strand of a virus. This mental/computational process is called alignment. They did not carry out the control attempts, the attempt to mentally/computationally construct the desired genetic strand from even short pieces of so-called genetic information from non-infected sources.
3️⃣Virologists always need a specified genetic strand of a virus to align a virus. However, they always use a genetic strand that has only been created mentally/computationally and never a real one, one found in reality. You never make any attempts to check whether from the existing data set
So-called genetic information and “viral” genetic material strands from completely different viruses could or could not be constructed.
4️⃣ Virologists have never seen or isolated “viruses” from humans, animals, plants and their fluids. They only did this apparently, indirectly and always using very special and artificial cell systems in the laboratory. They never mentioned the control attempts or documented whether they succeeded in displaying and isolating viruses in and from people, animals, plants or their fluids.
5️⃣Virologists have never isolated, biochemically characterized or obtained their supposed genetic material from the supposed viruses that they photograph using electron microscopy. They have never carried out control experiments or published whether, after isolating these structures, it was actually possible to detect “viral” proteins (the shell of the virus) and, above all, the viral genetic strand, which is supposed to be the central component and characteristic of a virus.
6️⃣ Virologists pass off typical artifacts of dying tissues/cells and typical structures that arise when cell's own components such as proteins, fats and the solvents used are swirled as viruses or as viral components. Here too, there are no control experiments with uninfected but similarly treated cells/tissues.
7️⃣ The so-called transmission experiments that virologists carry out to prove the transmissibility and pathogenicity of the suspected viruses refute the entire virology. It is obviously the experiments themselves that trigger the symptoms that are presented in animal experiments as proof of the existence and effect of the suspected viruses. Here, too, there are no control experiments in which exactly the same thing is done, just with non-infected or sterilized materials.
👉 Machtwerk - entry into the refutation of the virus claim https://telegra.ph/Alle-Publikationen-auf-ein-Blick—Why-these-works-no-pathogenes-virus-proofen-02-08
👉 more on @Corona_Fakten
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287122
If there were “viruses”, you could easily refute these 7 points and until recently you would have received 1.5 million euros for it.
Unfortunately, these “viruses” only exist on computers using sequence alignment but not in reality.
All attempts at infection in the history of medicine have failed miserably.
For me, virology is NOT a serious science.
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287127
Hello Markus,
It's about the popular pathogenic viruses, which are only created via sequence alignment but are not completely isolated. not about viriophages or risen viruses, which exist naturally because they can be scientifically proven. Please don't throw them together just because they have the same or similar name.
About the Em recordings:
Decisive things have to be said about the EM recordings in general
Structures shown in EM images and published as images of viruses have never been characterized biochemically. No nucleic acid was ever taken from such particles and determined. These particles are only passed off as viruses and the information is omitted that the same particles of this type are created every time “uninfected” cell cultures are treated in the same way as cell cultures defined as “infected”. Non-virologists call these particles e.g. B. as phagosomes, endosomes, exosomes, transport vesicles and in cross section as villi etc. pp.
You will see the same representation for many different claimed structures.
EM images always only show dead, chemically fixed things. The picture shows soap micelles made of detergents, fats and proteins that were preserved by freezing and may have only been created by this freezing process.
The only important message to the outside world: only “artifacts” are depicted – the crucial thing is:
1. that these images only come from cell cultures, i.e. dying tissue in the test tube, and definitely do not show anything that comes from a human being,
2. that these structures have never been characterized biochemically,
3. nucleic acids, which are said to be the heart of the virus, have never been obtained from these structures (i.e. the nucleic acid has never been obtained from a specific structure that is passed off as a virus)
A motionless image from electron microscopy never shows the living biological process. What is examined under the EMs has absolutely nothing to do with what happens in the human biological organism. Every result from the laboratory cannot provide any conclusions about the processes within a living organism.
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Helmut Edelhaeusser says:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287111
It was and is not a VACCINATION.
According to the book “VirusWahn” [ editor´s note : Translated : "Virus Madness" by Köhnlein and Engelbrecht ] there is no isolated or purified virus.
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Manu El Ohim said:
https://apolut.net/im-gespraech-ulrike-kaemmerer#comment-287123
Not only according to the book by Köhnlein and Engelbrecht are there no viruses that cause illness, but also according to the laws of logic.
because the control experiments show this very clearly. Both the CPE (cytopathic effect) and the sequence alignment can be carried out with a sample from a healthy person who tested negative and get the same result, which virologists misinterpret as a virus.
This means that virology has long been scientifically refuted, but Ms. Kämmerer Wohl simply doesn't want that to be true.
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[ Editors note : Prof. Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer is a very active freedom fighter to whom we owe a lot of good things. This is mainly known in Germany.]
Prof. Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer :
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Dr. Stefan Lanka by APOLUT, unfortunately only in German :
https://apolut.net/m-pathie-stefan-lanka-2/
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An additional argument that is not included in the comments published above can be found in this article :
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The hilarious electron microscope problem: going much deeper on fake viruses
Jul 18, 2024
I might call the problem hilarious on Monday; tragic on Tuesday. Either way it’s quite insane.
Researchers have long claimed that viruses display characteristic shapes, when samples from patients are placed under electron microscopes.
Turns out there are a variety of such shapes, depending on the type of virus:
Icosahedral.
Helical.
Combination of icosahedral and helical.
Spherical.
Bullet-shaped.
Filamentous.
The decision that these shapes indicate viruses—how was that made?
Well, it was made yesterday, when a patient sample was put under an electron microscope in New York, based on a decision made in 2012 with a microscope in Paris, based on a decision in 1994 in London, based on a decision in 1987 in Moscow, based on…
In other words, interpreting these shapes as viruses relies on prior identical interpretations, going all the way back to the first time a researcher decided that any of these shapes indicates a virus.
And that original first decision was based on…
Nothing.
Because no one has ever seen an isolated purified virus.
Bang.
Tomorrow, I could say a triangular shape with three tails and one circle in the middle of the triangle means VIRUS…just because I feel like it.
Because I like triangles.
Because I’m looking for funding.
Because I want to publish a paper.
( … )
Full article :
https://jonrappoport.substack.com/p/hilarious-electron-microscope-problem-fake-virus
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Many statements and videos from Dr. Mike Yeadon can also be found on Suavek's Substack, which is recommended by Dr. Yeadon on the main page of his Substack.
Both links lead to Suavek`s Substack :
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Dr. Stefan Lanka by APOLUT
APOLUT is the most important alternative broadcaster in Germany :
https://apolut.net/podcast/tagesdosis/
The Enlightenment
Thanks, Suavek, that's a great article and those points are very helpful, thank you. The whole horrific scam would simply fall apart if everyone realised that viruses don't exist. No virus, no pandemic. no 'need'' for vaccinations. Saying that, give me 1.5 million and I'll have a good look for one! (Joke) It always comes down to money.